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Poster: Freestone Slice Date: Mar 16, 2013 5:08pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: If anybody here is fluent in Morse Code, I have something weird to show you

My wife and I are currently working our way through the Italian Hercules movies available here, and we noticed something unusual in "Hercules and the Tyrants of Babylon" (http://archive.org/details/Hercules_and_the_Tyrants_of_Babylon).

The film's audio contains a large amount of very quiet beeping that sounds to my untrained ear like Morse Code. I first noticed it a little after 30 minutes in, and it continues the rest of the way through the movie, although not constantly. Neither of us is fluent in Morse, so we have no idea of that's what this really is, but it's our best guess. At times, but not exclusively, the pattern of beeps seems to repeat itself.

As the film is set 3,000 years in the past, there is nothing in it to indicate the logical presence of Morse Code. If anyone here can tell me what, if anything, I'm hearing, I'd be VERY interested to know.

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Poster: Nesrad Date: Mar 16, 2013 6:50pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: If anybody here is fluent in Morse Code, I have something weird to show you

Seems like gibberish... from 30:31-30:39, you get "kb23 214200" and after the dialogue it sounds like random numbers.

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Poster: Freestone Slice Date: Mar 16, 2013 7:05pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: If anybody here is fluent in Morse Code, I have something weird to show you

Thanks! But wouldn't it still be odd if it were all numbers?

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Poster: Nesrad Date: Mar 16, 2013 7:08pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: If anybody here is fluent in Morse Code, I have something weird to show you

If I had to guess, I would say a radio beacon was interfering with the dubbing equipment at mixing time. You spoke of the same sequence coming at regular intervals. The numbers could be the beacon's identification and/or coordinates.

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Poster: Freestone Slice Date: Mar 16, 2013 7:27pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: If anybody here is fluent in Morse Code, I have something weird to show you

And now I only have more questions. If you get a chance to decode more of it, please keep me informed. Thanks again.

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Poster: katieq Date: Mar 17, 2013 7:52pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: If anybody here is fluent in Morse Code, I have something weird to show you

OMG!

sometimes the peoples ignorance on this board is so bad it is NOT even amusing!

that is time code you are hearing, when broadcasting 3/4" or 1" it is a trigger to switch machines and play another machine cued up with commercials

like an automated commercial insertion method in the good old days

Katieq





This post was modified by katieq on 2013-03-18 02:52:32

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Poster: Freestone Slice Date: Mar 17, 2013 6:32pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: If anybody here is fluent in Morse Code, I have something weird to show you

Good to know! Were such codes normally audible in broadcasts?

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Poster: katieq Date: Mar 17, 2013 7:48pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: If anybody here is fluent in Morse Code, I have something weird to show you

not always, usually on 3/4 tape they would put audio tones on right or left channel of audio so if they accidentally left the channel output with audio tones then you could hear them but were not really supposed to

Also sometimes 3/4 tape would have audio bleed and you could hear it on the track without the tones

hope I explained that in a way that is easily understood, cause I just got a little confused writing, actually NOT

Katieq

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Poster: Freestone Slice Date: Mar 17, 2013 8:02pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: If anybody here is fluent in Morse Code, I have something weird to show you

That actually seemed pretty straightforward (though it helps that I love old technology). The only thing I didn't understand was your last sentence, which seems to cut off in the middle.

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Poster: Nesrad Date: Mar 13, 2014 7:05pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: If anybody here is fluent in Morse Code, I have something weird to show you

We are such idiots for not knowing something so obvious.